B2C

How sales is finding its humanity after poorly scaled outreach sacrificed connection for efficiency

Jun 27, 2025

Paramark News Desk

Credit: Outlever

Key Points

  • Automated outreach has become impersonal, prompting a shift back to human-led value in sales strategies.

  • Cody Normand, Head of Global Enablement Programs at Klaviyo, discusses the importance of personalized, consultative approaches over generic messaging.

  • AI role-play tools are used to enhance sales reps' skills, allowing for more effective customer interactions.

  • Emphasizing human value in GTM aims to deliver standout experiences for end consumers.


Personalization today isn't just, ‘Hey, saw you went to X college. Go Mascot Name!’ It’s about being a strategic advisor. It’s visiting their website, understanding how things are set up, and offering real value before even mentioning the product.

Cody Normand

Head of Global Enablement Programs
,
Klaviyo

The promise of infinitely-scaling automated outreach and "connection at scale" has become its own poison. In the race to make selling easier, outbound has grown noisy and impersonal, turning a channel of opportunity into a digital dead end. A reckoning is underway, and the path forward is clear: bring back humanity.

Cody Normand, Head of Global Enablement Programs at Klaviyo, draws on a career spent building high-performing GTM teams at martech leaders like HubSpot and Gong. For him, the most potent strategy in an era of automation is a radical return to genuine, human-led value.

More than a mascot:Personalization today isn't just, ‘Hey, saw you went to X college. Go Mascot Name!’ It’s about being a strategic advisor,” jokes Normand. “It’s visiting their website, understanding how things are set up, and offering real value before even mentioning the product.” This consultative approach is what separates meaningful outreach from the avalanche of empty, automated noise clogging every inbox. The distance between B2B, B2C, and B2B2C is shorter than what might be expected. "People are people", regardless of where they sit as consumers. According to Normand, GTM teams need to rethink their role accordingly. While a strong brand always helps, individual skill is the ultimate trump card for cutting through in any saturated market.

The goal is for someone to think, ‘Damn, there’s no one else in the world who got this message.’

Cody Normand

Head of Global Enablement Programs
,
Klaviyo

Reps putting in reps: Building a team of human-centric advisors takes more than good intent; it takes practice. Traditional role-playing is time-consuming and limited by manager availability, so Normand’s team uses AI to give reps more opportunities to practice and strengthen their skills at scale. “We’ve been evaluating AI role-play tools because we know reps ramp faster the more practice they get,” he says. “It’s basically an unlimited gym membership for running great discovery calls or demos.”

Still, practice only matters if it shows up in the pipeline. The team uses tools like Gong to analyze qualitative signals—talk ratio, patience—and pairs them with hard metrics. “If a rep is great at discovery, they should be progressing deals from stage one to stage two,” Normand says. “We track conversion rates tied to the specific skill and part of the process.”

Beyond the blast: The focus on human value isn't just about building better reps. It's about helping them empower customers to create standout experiences for the end consumer. “The days of the un-personalized email blast should be long gone,” says Normand. That level of care, once reserved for high-value B2B relationships, now belongs in every interaction. "The goal is for someone to think, ‘Damn, there’s no one else in the world who got this message.’"

B2C

How sales is finding its humanity after poorly scaled outreach sacrificed connection for efficiency

Jun 27, 2025

Paramark News Desk

Credit: Outlever

Key Points

  • Automated outreach has become impersonal, prompting a shift back to human-led value in sales strategies.

  • Cody Normand, Head of Global Enablement Programs at Klaviyo, discusses the importance of personalized, consultative approaches over generic messaging.

  • AI role-play tools are used to enhance sales reps' skills, allowing for more effective customer interactions.

  • Emphasizing human value in GTM aims to deliver standout experiences for end consumers.


Personalization today isn't just, ‘Hey, saw you went to X college. Go Mascot Name!’ It’s about being a strategic advisor. It’s visiting their website, understanding how things are set up, and offering real value before even mentioning the product.

Cody Normand

Head of Global Enablement Programs
,
Klaviyo

The promise of infinitely-scaling automated outreach and "connection at scale" has become its own poison. In the race to make selling easier, outbound has grown noisy and impersonal, turning a channel of opportunity into a digital dead end. A reckoning is underway, and the path forward is clear: bring back humanity.

Cody Normand, Head of Global Enablement Programs at Klaviyo, draws on a career spent building high-performing GTM teams at martech leaders like HubSpot and Gong. For him, the most potent strategy in an era of automation is a radical return to genuine, human-led value.

More than a mascot:Personalization today isn't just, ‘Hey, saw you went to X college. Go Mascot Name!’ It’s about being a strategic advisor,” jokes Normand. “It’s visiting their website, understanding how things are set up, and offering real value before even mentioning the product.” This consultative approach is what separates meaningful outreach from the avalanche of empty, automated noise clogging every inbox. The distance between B2B, B2C, and B2B2C is shorter than what might be expected. "People are people", regardless of where they sit as consumers. According to Normand, GTM teams need to rethink their role accordingly. While a strong brand always helps, individual skill is the ultimate trump card for cutting through in any saturated market.

The goal is for someone to think, ‘Damn, there’s no one else in the world who got this message.’

Cody Normand

Head of Global Enablement Programs
,
Klaviyo

Reps putting in reps: Building a team of human-centric advisors takes more than good intent; it takes practice. Traditional role-playing is time-consuming and limited by manager availability, so Normand’s team uses AI to give reps more opportunities to practice and strengthen their skills at scale. “We’ve been evaluating AI role-play tools because we know reps ramp faster the more practice they get,” he says. “It’s basically an unlimited gym membership for running great discovery calls or demos.”

Still, practice only matters if it shows up in the pipeline. The team uses tools like Gong to analyze qualitative signals—talk ratio, patience—and pairs them with hard metrics. “If a rep is great at discovery, they should be progressing deals from stage one to stage two,” Normand says. “We track conversion rates tied to the specific skill and part of the process.”

Beyond the blast: The focus on human value isn't just about building better reps. It's about helping them empower customers to create standout experiences for the end consumer. “The days of the un-personalized email blast should be long gone,” says Normand. That level of care, once reserved for high-value B2B relationships, now belongs in every interaction. "The goal is for someone to think, ‘Damn, there’s no one else in the world who got this message.’"